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		<title>Comment on Hybrid Taxi Fleets: Why Not &#8212; Now? by Bill Barker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years ago, the City of San Antonio issued allowed two permits for hybrid taxis to replace a single permit for a conventional auto.  As a practical matter, some taxis have lifts on them to handle wheelchair-bound passengers and a hybrid vehicle was not available at the time.  Prius taxis are so common that the City is now considering just requiring some sort of alternative fuel for all cabs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago, the City of San Antonio issued allowed two permits for hybrid taxis to replace a single permit for a conventional auto.  As a practical matter, some taxis have lifts on them to handle wheelchair-bound passengers and a hybrid vehicle was not available at the time.  Prius taxis are so common that the City is now considering just requiring some sort of alternative fuel for all cabs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hybrid Taxi Fleets: Why Not &#8212; Now? by Neal Peirce</title>
		<link>http://citiwire.net/post/1761/comment-page-1/#comment-1166</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Peirce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment received from Robert M. Parry, AICP, 
Director of Planning and Economic Development, City of Westlake, Ohio:

Neal: Saw your article in Nation&#039;s Cities Weekly.  As an owner of a Toyota Prius since 2003 I don’t know why more cities and cabbies are not using hybrids. They really pay off when sitting in traffic or at a light when my engine turns off. I happened to be in Seattle and rented the latest version which was significantly larger and had lots of power to peel away from the light (if one needed to) and only used 2 gallons of gas for the 100 miles I drove. Sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment received from Robert M. Parry, AICP,<br />
Director of Planning and Economic Development, City of Westlake, Ohio:</p>
<p>Neal: Saw your article in Nation&#8217;s Cities Weekly.  As an owner of a Toyota Prius since 2003 I don’t know why more cities and cabbies are not using hybrids. They really pay off when sitting in traffic or at a light when my engine turns off. I happened to be in Seattle and rented the latest version which was significantly larger and had lots of power to peel away from the light (if one needed to) and only used 2 gallons of gas for the 100 miles I drove. Sweet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hybrid Taxi Fleets: Why Not &#8212; Now? by David Parvo</title>
		<link>http://citiwire.net/post/1761/comment-page-1/#comment-1165</link>
		<dc:creator>David Parvo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, due to hybrids requiring massive batteries which, in turn, require massive amounts of heavy metals which, in turn, require massive amounts of energy to extract and transport, the overall environmental footprint of a hybrid may very well be higher than that of a gas-driven comparable model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, due to hybrids requiring massive batteries which, in turn, require massive amounts of heavy metals which, in turn, require massive amounts of energy to extract and transport, the overall environmental footprint of a hybrid may very well be higher than that of a gas-driven comparable model.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hybrid Taxi Fleets: Why Not &#8212; Now? by Neal Peirce</title>
		<link>http://citiwire.net/post/1761/comment-page-1/#comment-1164</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Peirce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment received from Chris Van Dyk, Principal, 
Bainbridge Media Group, Inc.

Nice column on taxicabs, but you miss the problem entirely.  The Ford Crown Victoria is built like a tank.  Taxi fleets buy them new---that is, newly retired from police service at about 100,000 miles.  Because they are such reliable beasts, taxis get another 400,000 or so miles out of them, with and through continuous maintenance programs.

 Even with that maintenance, the amortization cost---the cost of operation over the life of the vehicle---is much lower than anything we have tried, except, perhaps, a Compressed Natural Gas vehicle---which is why Crown Vics are being converted around the country to CNG.

If New York City and Congress want a faster conversion of taxi fleets, for environmental reasons, they have to help us with that amortization cost----in Seattle, certainly, most vehicles are owned by individuals , and the amortization cost of a Prius just does not pencil out.   

Also, Toyota has said the vehicle is simply not suitable as a taxicab.  The high amortization cost would have to be recovered---from consumers or taxicab operators or somewhere.  That is the Gordian knot we are trying to untie.  

Your attention to the issue is most appreciated, but an incomplete picture simply makes that knot more difficult to untie.

I am a lobbyist for various taxicab associations in Seattle and Washington State, including Yellow Cab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment received from Chris Van Dyk, Principal,<br />
Bainbridge Media Group, Inc.</p>
<p>Nice column on taxicabs, but you miss the problem entirely.  The Ford Crown Victoria is built like a tank.  Taxi fleets buy them new&#8212;that is, newly retired from police service at about 100,000 miles.  Because they are such reliable beasts, taxis get another 400,000 or so miles out of them, with and through continuous maintenance programs.</p>
<p> Even with that maintenance, the amortization cost&#8212;the cost of operation over the life of the vehicle&#8212;is much lower than anything we have tried, except, perhaps, a Compressed Natural Gas vehicle&#8212;which is why Crown Vics are being converted around the country to CNG.</p>
<p>If New York City and Congress want a faster conversion of taxi fleets, for environmental reasons, they have to help us with that amortization cost&#8212;-in Seattle, certainly, most vehicles are owned by individuals , and the amortization cost of a Prius just does not pencil out.   </p>
<p>Also, Toyota has said the vehicle is simply not suitable as a taxicab.  The high amortization cost would have to be recovered&#8212;from consumers or taxicab operators or somewhere.  That is the Gordian knot we are trying to untie.  </p>
<p>Your attention to the issue is most appreciated, but an incomplete picture simply makes that knot more difficult to untie.</p>
<p>I am a lobbyist for various taxicab associations in Seattle and Washington State, including Yellow Cab.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hybrid Taxi Fleets: Why Not &#8212; Now? by Woody Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://citiwire.net/post/1761/comment-page-1/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of Yellow Taxis, Green Taxis!  This is a great idea, and should happen across the country.  It seems like Chicago would be an early adopter too, with Mayor Daley at the helm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of Yellow Taxis, Green Taxis!  This is a great idea, and should happen across the country.  It seems like Chicago would be an early adopter too, with Mayor Daley at the helm.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Snow Tax&#8217; to &#8216;Land Use Tax&#8217; &#8212; Time to Experiment by Robert Holmes</title>
		<link>http://citiwire.net/post/1728/comment-page-1/#comment-1161</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, real snow insurance already available to commercial entities and governments.  The Vortex Insurance Agency (my employer) offers such coverage.

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, real snow insurance already available to commercial entities and governments.  The Vortex Insurance Agency (my employer) offers such coverage.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustaining Sustainability: It Ain&#8217;t Always Easy by Chris Boggiano</title>
		<link>http://citiwire.net/post/1741/comment-page-1/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Boggiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary,

I&#039;m just coming across this now, but you hit the nail on the head with this post.  I live on the Huntersville/Cornelius border in Birkdale Village.  Although I think the immediate area around where I live is ok because I can walk to shops, bike to work on the greenway down the street from my house, and walk my dogs in the stand of trees that will someday be Robbins Park, I think the greater Lake Norman area is like a snapshot of Atlanta 20 or so years ago.  Sad to say that I don&#039;t think it&#039;s going to get better anytime soon either.  Maybe the North Main Line will get funding approved and get things back on track, but I can&#039;t say that I&#039;m too optimistic.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just coming across this now, but you hit the nail on the head with this post.  I live on the Huntersville/Cornelius border in Birkdale Village.  Although I think the immediate area around where I live is ok because I can walk to shops, bike to work on the greenway down the street from my house, and walk my dogs in the stand of trees that will someday be Robbins Park, I think the greater Lake Norman area is like a snapshot of Atlanta 20 or so years ago.  Sad to say that I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going to get better anytime soon either.  Maybe the North Main Line will get funding approved and get things back on track, but I can&#8217;t say that I&#8217;m too optimistic.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>Comment on FDR National Airport by Elizabeth Kellar</title>
		<link>http://citiwire.net/post/1655/comment-page-1/#comment-1156</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Kellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of us who live in the Metropolitan Washington, DC, region thought that having just one President&#039;s name on the airport was sufficient -- the full name of the airport is George Washington Ronald Reagan National Airport.  We&#039;d be happy with either National Airport or to return to Washington National Airport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of us who live in the Metropolitan Washington, DC, region thought that having just one President&#8217;s name on the airport was sufficient &#8212; the full name of the airport is George Washington Ronald Reagan National Airport.  We&#8217;d be happy with either National Airport or to return to Washington National Airport.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bridges to Somewhere: New &#8220;TIGER&#8221; Program&#8217;s Bite by Wayne Senville</title>
		<link>http://citiwire.net/post/1743/comment-page-1/#comment-1155</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Senville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment from Wayne Senville, Editor, Planning Commissioners Journal

Thanks, Neal, for explaining some of the benefits of this important program. Too often positive policy shifts -- like the TIGER program -- are ignored by the media. Hopefully, with commentary like yours the word will get out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment from Wayne Senville, Editor, Planning Commissioners Journal</p>
<p>Thanks, Neal, for explaining some of the benefits of this important program. Too often positive policy shifts &#8212; like the TIGER program &#8212; are ignored by the media. Hopefully, with commentary like yours the word will get out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bridges to Somewhere: New &#8220;TIGER&#8221; Program&#8217;s Bite by Neal Peirce</title>
		<link>http://citiwire.net/post/1743/comment-page-1/#comment-1154</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Peirce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment from Arnold Weinfeld
Director, Strategic Initiatives and Federal Affairs
President, Michigan Municipal League Foundation

The $25 million for Detroit is in no way shape or form for “its first-ever” transit line (as the original text -- now fixed -- indicated).  .  As I’m sure you know, Detroit was the envy during the first half of the 20th century for having the most modern and sophisticated street-car/transit commuter system in the country.  If anything, it should be termed as funding to help get Detroit “back to the future”.
 
Love your stuff and make sure it gets distributed widely in my organization and throughout Michigan.  Thanks for all you do on behalf of cities and working to create livable and prosperous 21st century communities.
 
Arnold Weinfeld</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment from Arnold Weinfeld<br />
Director, Strategic Initiatives and Federal Affairs<br />
President, Michigan Municipal League Foundation</p>
<p>The $25 million for Detroit is in no way shape or form for “its first-ever” transit line (as the original text &#8212; now fixed &#8212; indicated).  .  As I’m sure you know, Detroit was the envy during the first half of the 20th century for having the most modern and sophisticated street-car/transit commuter system in the country.  If anything, it should be termed as funding to help get Detroit “back to the future”.</p>
<p>Love your stuff and make sure it gets distributed widely in my organization and throughout Michigan.  Thanks for all you do on behalf of cities and working to create livable and prosperous 21st century communities.</p>
<p>Arnold Weinfeld</p>
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