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		<title>By: Neal Peirce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal Peirce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment received from Greg Hoover, Syracuse area builder, regarding the Pyramid Management group/Robert Congel -- mentioned in this column:
You fail to mention that this Mall was built on one of the most ugly &amp; dirty dump salvage properties one most ever sees and in the inner city as well. ... They also got removed the Oil City tanks and their spills in the nearby lots….in the center city... This very same company 1st took more Brownstone reclamation properties in Franklin Square, than anyone else….in the city center again &amp; probably generated more of the dense urban living units than anyone and set the momentum for others to do so now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment received from Greg Hoover, Syracuse area builder, regarding the Pyramid Management group/Robert Congel &#8212; mentioned in this column:<br />
You fail to mention that this Mall was built on one of the most ugly &#038; dirty dump salvage properties one most ever sees and in the inner city as well. &#8230; They also got removed the Oil City tanks and their spills in the nearby lots….in the center city&#8230; This very same company 1st took more Brownstone reclamation properties in Franklin Square, than anyone else….in the city center again &#038; probably generated more of the dense urban living units than anyone and set the momentum for others to do so now.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Peirce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal Peirce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Message from Cynthia Loring MacBain
Skaneateles

Thank you, thank you for your very clear piece on the un-greenness of malls and the building industry.  I just wish that we could get members of the television media to develop programs that help people understand what people like you and me -- people who read extensively and ask questions -- seem to &quot;get.&quot;
 
One only needs to visit a town like Northampton, MA -- or parts of New York City and Boston -- to see that
when people can browse stores along a street and take time to stop and share conversation over a cup of coffee in an outside cafe, they find much more pleasure than they do driving an hour to a huge mall and then having to study the categories of shops in the directory to know where they want to turn.  Syracuse could be that community, with bike trails and walking trails.  New Haven, CT. has changed their buses to &quot;trolleys,&quot; and their bus stops to &quot;trolley stops.&quot;  They are so much more colorful than the silver centros, and might tempt people to want to use them instead of cars. (Of course, I&#039;d like the real thing because it might slow the pace of traffic, as they did in my childhood.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Message from Cynthia Loring MacBain<br />
Skaneateles</p>
<p>Thank you, thank you for your very clear piece on the un-greenness of malls and the building industry.  I just wish that we could get members of the television media to develop programs that help people understand what people like you and me &#8212; people who read extensively and ask questions &#8212; seem to &#8220;get.&#8221;</p>
<p>One only needs to visit a town like Northampton, MA &#8212; or parts of New York City and Boston &#8212; to see that<br />
when people can browse stores along a street and take time to stop and share conversation over a cup of coffee in an outside cafe, they find much more pleasure than they do driving an hour to a huge mall and then having to study the categories of shops in the directory to know where they want to turn.  Syracuse could be that community, with bike trails and walking trails.  New Haven, CT. has changed their buses to &#8220;trolleys,&#8221; and their bus stops to &#8220;trolley stops.&#8221;  They are so much more colorful than the silver centros, and might tempt people to want to use them instead of cars. (Of course, I&#8217;d like the real thing because it might slow the pace of traffic, as they did in my childhood.)</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Frey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Frey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, lets not waste energy. But lets talk about the human energy waste and the systematic practice of extracting it by the means of &quot;usury&quot;. This goes on unabated until all the wealth and power is in the hands of a few as the many are left depleted and exhausted. This human energy disease has a name. The Federal Reserve Bank. This human energy disease is terminal. Good Luck to You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, lets not waste energy. But lets talk about the human energy waste and the systematic practice of extracting it by the means of &#8220;usury&#8221;. This goes on unabated until all the wealth and power is in the hands of a few as the many are left depleted and exhausted. This human energy disease has a name. The Federal Reserve Bank. This human energy disease is terminal. Good Luck to You.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Peirce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal Peirce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Received from Ellen Bynum, Director 
Friends of Skagit County 
You nailed it - well, almost all of it (minus the tax incentives and other corporate law which drives the greednovators) - with your editorial.  On behalf of the Board and members of Friends of Skagit County, we thank you for exposing development that is inappropriate in size, scale or location for what it is - greenwashing at its best (or worst). 

We appreciate you pointing out that UGAs are designated so that infrastructure will be compact, and supposedly, costs to taxpayers will be reduced when developers pay their fair share (or pass on to new buyers).  With 59.9% of the land in Skagit being untaxed, sprawl (at any rate) is a recipe for disaster to the citizens, all 107,000 of them. 

You may want to write next about how this phenomenon seems to have invaded state agencies, especially in Skagit County where most of the 3,000 acres of agricultural lands converted to other uses in 2008 were purchased by agencies for various &quot;projects&quot;.  We count another 10,000 acres of the 83,000 zoned Ag-NRL are proposed for future conversion. At this rate we can fully wipe out the largest economic driver in the county in a few years and transform the Valley into Lynnwood.  Where we will grow our food is another matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Received from Ellen Bynum, Director<br />
Friends of Skagit County<br />
You nailed it &#8211; well, almost all of it (minus the tax incentives and other corporate law which drives the greednovators) &#8211; with your editorial.  On behalf of the Board and members of Friends of Skagit County, we thank you for exposing development that is inappropriate in size, scale or location for what it is &#8211; greenwashing at its best (or worst). </p>
<p>We appreciate you pointing out that UGAs are designated so that infrastructure will be compact, and supposedly, costs to taxpayers will be reduced when developers pay their fair share (or pass on to new buyers).  With 59.9% of the land in Skagit being untaxed, sprawl (at any rate) is a recipe for disaster to the citizens, all 107,000 of them. </p>
<p>You may want to write next about how this phenomenon seems to have invaded state agencies, especially in Skagit County where most of the 3,000 acres of agricultural lands converted to other uses in 2008 were purchased by agencies for various &#8220;projects&#8221;.  We count another 10,000 acres of the 83,000 zoned Ag-NRL are proposed for future conversion. At this rate we can fully wipe out the largest economic driver in the county in a few years and transform the Valley into Lynnwood.  Where we will grow our food is another matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Peirce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal Peirce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Received from Marianne Gordon:

Thanks for the great column about what AFLC is threatening to do  to the forests of Kittitas County.

We already have one over-priced gated community between Cle Elum and Roslyn, Suncadia, and here someone is trying to  start another.
  
Needless to say many of us are entirely against it. Our local chapter  of National Audubon Society is one of the pponents.  It seems it is  ne thing after another and our county commissioners haven&#039;t learned  that more houses don&#039;t bring in enough more taxes to pay for the  additional services. It&#039;s not a new concept. My dad preached it way back in the forties when he was on the King County Planning Commission.

I always look forward to reading your  columns. What you say makes sense to somebody who was introduced to these ideas at an early age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Received from Marianne Gordon:</p>
<p>Thanks for the great column about what AFLC is threatening to do  to the forests of Kittitas County.</p>
<p>We already have one over-priced gated community between Cle Elum and Roslyn, Suncadia, and here someone is trying to  start another.</p>
<p>Needless to say many of us are entirely against it. Our local chapter  of National Audubon Society is one of the pponents.  It seems it is  ne thing after another and our county commissioners haven&#8217;t learned  that more houses don&#8217;t bring in enough more taxes to pay for the  additional services. It&#8217;s not a new concept. My dad preached it way back in the forties when he was on the King County Planning Commission.</p>
<p>I always look forward to reading your  columns. What you say makes sense to somebody who was introduced to these ideas at an early age.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Beal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Beal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neal: As usual, a great thought expressed effectively.

Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neal: As usual, a great thought expressed effectively.</p>
<p>Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Torrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Torrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at California&#039;s SB 375 Sustainable Communities and Climate Protection Act that links transportation and land use to reduce the need to drive.  This legislation will reduce sprawl, fuel use and greenhouse gas emissions and create new patterns of compact growth with diversified mixes of uses that result in jobs being located closer to housing.   Taxpayer spending on major road infrastructure will also be reduced under this legislation.  Thanks to California State Senator Darrell Steinberg for introducing and spearheading the effort to pass SB 375;  the path to sustainable development that could be a model for the rest of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at California&#8217;s SB 375 Sustainable Communities and Climate Protection Act that links transportation and land use to reduce the need to drive.  This legislation will reduce sprawl, fuel use and greenhouse gas emissions and create new patterns of compact growth with diversified mixes of uses that result in jobs being located closer to housing.   Taxpayer spending on major road infrastructure will also be reduced under this legislation.  Thanks to California State Senator Darrell Steinberg for introducing and spearheading the effort to pass SB 375;  the path to sustainable development that could be a model for the rest of the country.</p>
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